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Nottingham Post – Both sides of argument finding support over AV

Printed in the Nottingham Post on May 5, 2011.

Mark Riley Cardwell, cuttings, Cardiff School of Journalism

Opinions in Notts are divided over today’s referendum on voting reform.

While many residents agree that there are problems with first-past-the-post voting, the possible complications and costs of the alternative vote remain a worry.

Under AV, voters can list candidates in order of preference.

If no candidate gains more than 50 per cent of the vote initially, the candidate with the smallest share of the vote is eliminated, and his or her supporters’ second choice votes are added to the others.

This continues until one candidate has more than 50 per cent of the vote.

But conflicting claims about the system, which has never been used for general elections in the UK, have worried some.

Claire Hamerton, 47, an administration assistant from New Basford, said: “It is hard to make your mind up as there are so many points of view and dirty games being played, so I am probably going to say no.

“The cost is definitely a factor, especially given the cuts. If AV is anywhere near the amount people are saying, it is a waste of money.

“I am not against some kind of change in the future, but I am not prepared to risk a party like the BNP getting in.”

Krzys Kozlowski, 51, a supply teacher and poet from Sherwood, said: “I shall be voting against because I think it is a total waste of time. There has got to be a complete change of the political system.”

Some objected to the cost of the £91m referendum itself, feeling it had been a “botched” coalition compromise.

John Greensmith, 56, unemployed, from Sherwood, said: “They are spending money on a stupid referendum while they are cutting money to hospitals – it is needed there.”

Dr Donald Henry, 79, retired, from Sherwood, said: “They wanted it politically, and the Prime Minister had to please the Lib Dems, but I don’t see any point in doing it.”

But others look more positively on the issue.

Arthur Miller, 77, retired, from Sherwood, said: “We have had first-past-the-post for a long time, and I think we have to give AV a go. If you have got four candidates and three are on the same level but the fourth wins by ten votes, it does not make sense.”

Claims that AV is too complicated for voters to understand also proved contentious.

Mr Miller said: “I am just an ordinary chap and I understand AV – it is a cheek to say people won’t understand it.”

A poll by ComRes for the Independent newspaper this week put the No vote on 66 per cent, 32 points ahead.

Under the present system, critics say votes for non-winning candidates are “wasted”, as it would make no difference if they were to lose by one or 10,000 votes. Additionally, smaller parties tend to do worse.

In last year’s general election, the Liberal Democrats gained 23 per cent of the vote but only eight per cent of the total seats.

Some believe AV will update the old two-party system and remove the ideas of safe seats and tactical voting. But others criticise it for being more expensive and believe it will make hung parliaments more likely.

Cardiff protest against the proposed cuts to public sector on the day of the coalition government’s spending review anouncement


Anna Roxelana and I made this report for the Guardian’s Cardiff live blog.

Protestors gathered in the city centre last night to oppose the cuts to public services announced in the Government’s comprehensive spending review earlier in the day.

Guardian Cardiff Blog - cut protesters at in Cardiff city centre on day of the comprehensive spending review Photo by Anna

Around 50 people gathered by the Aneurin Bevan statue on Queen Street at 5.30pm to vocalise their disapointment at the Government’s decisions, and listened to speeches by Jake Griffiths, leader of the Wales Green party and Marianne Owens, vice chair of the Public and Commercial Services (PCS) Wales Committee.

Owens said: “We need to spread the message that we won’t pay for a crisis that we haven’t caused.”

Organiser Seb Cooke, of the South Wales Right to Work group, said: “I do not feel that writing to politicians is enough – to make an impression we need protests on the scale that we have seen in France and Greece.

“The government are trying to blame and punish the public services for the economic problems facing the country. It is not right that the public services should suffer, because the banks caused the crisis.”

He also started off a chant: “They say cut back, we say fight back!…Tories, Tories, Tories, out, out, out!”

Edmund Schluessel, of the University and College Union and Socialist Party Wales, said tonight was the start of bigger protests: “Tonight is just a little thing to start things off.

We all know anger is there, I don’t know anyone who is happy with the cuts. We have the steam of public anger, now we need to build a piston box and convert steam into useful work.

“We object to everything in the public spending review -the cuts are not necessary when there are billions of pounds in evaded taxes. Investment builds the economy more than cuts do, the government is implementing changes without regard to evidence.”

Guardian Cardiff Blog - cut protesters at in Cardiff city centre on day of the comprehensive spending review Photo by Anna

This Saturday a larger protest is due take place outside the City Hall and expected to attract protesters from across Wales.